I love exploring in places that I am not supposed to be; both figuratively and literally. While many of you will immediately read into this as a sinister intonation of base instinct, in this case I will be speaking literally.
I had spent most of my adolescent and pre-adult years indulging a dangerous hobby of urban (and in most cases suburban) exploration - read: trespassing in (usually condemned) spaces closed off to the public, for reasons of structural instability, chemical or radioactive danger or unexplained circumstances. Another term for this is a Spelunker:
With the hour or two of free time that I try to allot myself every few late nights, I try to harness the power of Google and other search methods to research (what seems to be) arcane subject matter. One disturbing find - People that share my interest are legion.
Ok, so I am not a criminal nut. Take one look at the site Infiltration.org and you will see that this is a very serious pastime for those who are a bit more than thrill-seekers. Inquisitive minds demand answers, and if we have to force entry to get them, we will.
The city of Glen Cove that I grew up in is very old, very historic and very weird, in a fascinatingly good way. There are ruins of Gargantuan mansions and estate gardens all over the town, towers, terraces, foundations, hillside bunkers, bomb shelters, tunnels and whole, intact structures still standing (containing within them bomb shelters, tunnels, secret rooms, hidden staircases, etc). Most are the remnants of the age of the Robber Barons - The Morgans, Pratts, Vanderbilts, Whitneys, et al.
My current fascination remains on the old Pratt estate. I referenced it in a past entry here exercising creative license in my impressions of the place. The grounds of Welwyn are incredible. It is approximately 200 acres of semi-abandoned woodland, containing ponds, creeks, a salt marsh, beachfront and multiple buildings, including a large Georgian-style mansion, maintenance buildings, garages, greenhouses and other assorted structures, all dispersed throughout the property, and all, except the mansion itself, derelict. The greenhouse is basically the concrete skeleton of its former glory, having endured glass-breaking vandal through the decades and multiple fires. It is here that a lot of people begin their enchantment with the place as it is such a stark contrasting of natural beauty and growth and despairing entropy. I liken the place to a coral reef where an old sunken ship lies rusting and crumbling away while the sea life takes a hold of it and uses it for its purposes of survival and growth. It is an incredible site, giving off an aura of quiet dignity and eerie sadness.
I will cut to the chase here - in my protracted Google sessions, I have come across sites extolling the beauty of Welwyn, beautiful photo galleries of the aforementioned greenhouses, the speculation of its possible expansion underground, namely, a vast tunnel system that honeycombs throughout a vast network of subterranean passageways.
An arcane Usenet posting has started a miniature storm of X-Files-like conspiracy and unconfirmed mutterings by unverified sources. In other words, it is all hearsay, but interesting stuff nonetheless:
Though I can't confirm it at the time of this writing, I believe I know who the writer is. I have tracked down someone with the same name, around the right age who was originally from Glen Cove in Massachusetts. I would like to contact him and find out if he was fabricating this seemingly too-good-to-be-true account, and if not, to tell me where the damn hatch is! The main reason that I do not dismiss this posting as a bunch of useless garbage is that he accurately describes the tunnel system beneath the Wunsch Arts Center in the Glen Cove Middle School. I have been down there hundreds of times in my years there and the description is spot-on. Not everyone knows about this place and it is enough for me to verify that he is truthful in part 1 of the posting. Part 2 is possible but unverified and part 3, until proven is speculative fiction.
This is beginning to look like an episode of Lost. I have reason to believe there is something definitely possible about large underground spaces based on the fact that I know exactly where one is in the middle of the woods at Welwyn. I also believe that this area is largely unknown to the public, and that it has not been visited in some time. I was last there about 4 or 5 years ago and left a few markers there to see if any human activity would follow me. I plan on going back to this place this coming weekend and will take many photographs to prove that this is not all kooky conspiracy theory.
All of my friends are invited to chime in, espesially those who are Illuminated on this topic.
I had spent most of my adolescent and pre-adult years indulging a dangerous hobby of urban (and in most cases suburban) exploration - read: trespassing in (usually condemned) spaces closed off to the public, for reasons of structural instability, chemical or radioactive danger or unexplained circumstances. Another term for this is a Spelunker:
n. One who explores caves chiefly as a hobby; a caver.I was an infamous break-and-enter conquistador. I used bolt cutters to break locks, kicked in gigantic multi-hinged security doors, destroyed windows with large cylindrical objects and have even used shotguns to render what was once sealed revealed. I was certainly not a conventional vandal, and took umbrage with any discoveries of graffiti or signs of destruction. My usual reasons for these explorations was just to see what was in there. Later on I had started taking photographs.
With the hour or two of free time that I try to allot myself every few late nights, I try to harness the power of Google and other search methods to research (what seems to be) arcane subject matter. One disturbing find - People that share my interest are legion.
Ok, so I am not a criminal nut. Take one look at the site Infiltration.org and you will see that this is a very serious pastime for those who are a bit more than thrill-seekers. Inquisitive minds demand answers, and if we have to force entry to get them, we will.
The city of Glen Cove that I grew up in is very old, very historic and very weird, in a fascinatingly good way. There are ruins of Gargantuan mansions and estate gardens all over the town, towers, terraces, foundations, hillside bunkers, bomb shelters, tunnels and whole, intact structures still standing (containing within them bomb shelters, tunnels, secret rooms, hidden staircases, etc). Most are the remnants of the age of the Robber Barons - The Morgans, Pratts, Vanderbilts, Whitneys, et al.
My current fascination remains on the old Pratt estate. I referenced it in a past entry here exercising creative license in my impressions of the place. The grounds of Welwyn are incredible. It is approximately 200 acres of semi-abandoned woodland, containing ponds, creeks, a salt marsh, beachfront and multiple buildings, including a large Georgian-style mansion, maintenance buildings, garages, greenhouses and other assorted structures, all dispersed throughout the property, and all, except the mansion itself, derelict. The greenhouse is basically the concrete skeleton of its former glory, having endured glass-breaking vandal through the decades and multiple fires. It is here that a lot of people begin their enchantment with the place as it is such a stark contrasting of natural beauty and growth and despairing entropy. I liken the place to a coral reef where an old sunken ship lies rusting and crumbling away while the sea life takes a hold of it and uses it for its purposes of survival and growth. It is an incredible site, giving off an aura of quiet dignity and eerie sadness.
I will cut to the chase here - in my protracted Google sessions, I have come across sites extolling the beauty of Welwyn, beautiful photo galleries of the aforementioned greenhouses, the speculation of its possible expansion underground, namely, a vast tunnel system that honeycombs throughout a vast network of subterranean passageways.
An arcane Usenet posting has started a miniature storm of X-Files-like conspiracy and unconfirmed mutterings by unverified sources. In other words, it is all hearsay, but interesting stuff nonetheless:
Newsgroups: alt.college.tunnels
Path: news.cs.indiana.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!portal!cpc
From: cpc@shell.portal.com (Chris Cebelenski)
Subject: Glen Cove Tunnels
Message-ID:
Sender: news@unix.portal.com
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Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 1994 01:00:52 GMT
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Okay, it's not exactly a college, but the tunnels there do connect to
just about everything, including the Middle School. I grew up in Glen
Cove, NY, and spent quite a bit of time exploring the tunnels:
1. Middle School/Daisy School Tunnels - From the Wunsch (sp?) arts center
dressing rooms (normally locked) you can enter the school twisties. From there
you can get into the main city tunnels
2. Underground river - From the highway there is an underground river entrance,
and lots of rats too. I've been quite a few miles into this and have never
found an exit.
3. From a (mostly) covered hatch in the Wellwyn (sp?) preserve you can enter
the oldest of the tunnels, which consist of a long lost goverment research
center and LOTS of neat abondoned rooms. We've dubbed this "The Lost City",
and it is REALLY extensive. From things I've found there I'd probably date
it to the 1950's. All sorts of abondoned labs, sealed rooms, deep shafts,
etc.
4. And finially-- Some strange underground railway. The gauge is too
small to be a train, but it's similar. It's in very bad repair. I followed
one branch quite far and eventually found myself in some building that I
didn't have the guts to explore. From the compass and distance (pedometer)
I'd say we had left the city limits.
Anyone else explore these?
C.
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Chris Cebelenski cpc@shell.portal.com
Science Fiction SIG Moderator cpc@cup.portal.com
Portal Communications
Though I can't confirm it at the time of this writing, I believe I know who the writer is. I have tracked down someone with the same name, around the right age who was originally from Glen Cove in Massachusetts. I would like to contact him and find out if he was fabricating this seemingly too-good-to-be-true account, and if not, to tell me where the damn hatch is! The main reason that I do not dismiss this posting as a bunch of useless garbage is that he accurately describes the tunnel system beneath the Wunsch Arts Center in the Glen Cove Middle School. I have been down there hundreds of times in my years there and the description is spot-on. Not everyone knows about this place and it is enough for me to verify that he is truthful in part 1 of the posting. Part 2 is possible but unverified and part 3, until proven is speculative fiction.
This is beginning to look like an episode of Lost. I have reason to believe there is something definitely possible about large underground spaces based on the fact that I know exactly where one is in the middle of the woods at Welwyn. I also believe that this area is largely unknown to the public, and that it has not been visited in some time. I was last there about 4 or 5 years ago and left a few markers there to see if any human activity would follow me. I plan on going back to this place this coming weekend and will take many photographs to prove that this is not all kooky conspiracy theory.
All of my friends are invited to chime in, espesially those who are Illuminated on this topic.
6 Comments:
At 1:22 PM, TheProg said…
Tom - There is no doubt that you are a spelunker of note and have ventured into regions that most men would not dare enter. I also knew Chris C in my Glen Cove days and from what I remember, would tend to believe his claims. I recall the backstage middle school entrance to a tunnel system. My theory is that the Welwyn tunnel system connects to the Webb Institute [which currently offers coursework in naval architecture]. No doubt, the perfect out-of-the-way location for a clandestine research facility during the cold war. It's location near Killenworth [the retreat for the then Soviet Union's ambassador and well-known spying location] only bolsters the argument. Perhaps we should organize a spelunking expedition - there may be a 1970's era geodesic dome located underneath.
At 1:50 PM, Marie Drucker said…
How Nancy Drew of you, Tom. In the titian-haired girl detective’s second book, she investigates the secret of the hidden staircase. It connects two old spooky houses.
(When I was a pre-teen, I found the Nancy Drew mysteries quite thrilling and scary. I was reading a passage in one where the requisite evil man is sneaking up behind Nancy and got so scared I had to put the book under the couch. Years later, I did the same thing while reading Jurassic Park…there’s a terrifying scene in the book that wasn’t used in the movie… the Sam Neill character and the children are in a boat passing through the prehistoric aviary and flying dinosaurs swoop down on them. I also had to get rid of Red Dragon and Silence of the Lambs [didn’t see either movie, because the books were so damn frightening]. I finished reading them, but couldn’t keep the books in the house. [A small aside, I never watched Friends religiously, but there is one episode I love. Rachel and Joey agree to read each other’s favorite books, so Joey must read Little Women. When he finds out that Beth is dying, he’s so distraught he puts the book in the freezer so he won’t have to see it. I’d do that.] {I have another aside … in a post from earlier this year you discuss how some trains in Japan having women-only cars to help cut down on men groping women. You think it’s a good idea not because you don’t enjoy female pulchritude but because you’d rather not listen to the women on the train talking so much. You pointed out that every conversation with women goes off on many different tangents. It’s true. We don’t do it to fill in the silence, though. It’s because our brains are always making so many connections. In fact, and I just read this in Cosmo, so I know it must be true, our brains may be wired differently. Men don’t have as many brain pathways, and you all tend to compartmentalize more. So there. As for the mad Japanese gropers, they should just stop.})
I think I told you I dated someone (let’s call him John) who attended Webb Institute in Glen Cove. Webb is right next to Welwyn (both on Cresent Beach Road, I think) and Webb definitely has underground tunnels. Webb is for exceptionally smart people. They major in both naval architecture and marine engineering. The school is tuition-free, like Cooper Union, but you pay for room and board. All the students live there and it’s a very close-knit, hard-working, hard-drinking group (there’s a student-run pub in the basement). So, the guys (and when John was there, there were only about 3 females attending the school) spend most of their time on the grounds. I’ll ask a few of the guys I still keep in contact with about tunnels and passageways. I know of one that led from the school to the beach.
At 11:05 PM, tom said…
All hail the arrival of The Prog!
A visit to the suspected site is pending. I am hoping that the structural intregrity of the bunker area in intact as I will be entering to photograph it. If you are available this weekend, perhaps a stroll through subterranean thoroughfares would be a smashing idea!
At 12:53 PM, Unknown said…
i just found this bookmark i made from awhile ago, but i've been looking around welwyn for quite some time looking for this damn thing.
if you go to google earth, you can get outlines of past structures of the place. you can see reminents of buildings out in the woods.
i made one very interesting find but haven't been able to probe any further...there is a set of buildings really far off the trail. around the surrouding area, the ground is concrete under an inch or two of soil (i was using a machette to get through the brush since it was so thick and had thrown it on the ground to hear a 'clunk'). the interesting thing was, the area in which the concrete encompassed was pretty large, making me believe there was an enterance somewhere close to there. the brush is really thick in that part so i haven't been able to do much.
pretty much seeing if you were interested in meeting up some time and checking it out.
At 10:39 PM, Bob Panzenbeck said…
I can't tell you how many people I've spoken to who have read this blog post from a zillion years ago and want to go on a tour of Welwyn looking for this hatch. I have my ideas about where it might be. Did you ever actually find anything?
At 4:26 PM, harryboy19 said…
Have any of you ever found the hatch or the tunnel at all? I have search here a few time for a few hours and have not found anything.
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